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There. it's never as fast as anybody would like. >> you talked about how you can never keep secrets forever. you think there are people input's orbit who are keeping secrets from the senate intelligence committee at this moment? >> we haven't started to interview those people yet, so i can't say they're keeping anything. some of them have actually talked about coming forward but i think with general flynn for example, he talked about coming forward voluntarily if he could get immunity and i don't think that's likely, at least not from our committee. that's one of the complications is we're con...

Secrets from the senate intelligence committee at this moment? >> we haven't started to interview those people yet, so i can't say they're keeping anything. some of them have actually talked about coming forward but i think with general flynn for example, he talked about coming forward voluntarily if he could get immunity and i don't think that's likely, at least not from our committee. that's one of the complications is we're conducting this investigation and don't forget the fbi is also conducting an investigation on what may have occurred between the trump campaign and the russians. we don'...

Extracting information? don't you teach the subject, whether a dog or detainee, their impact will have nothing on their misery. you think you would want someone who has nfrgs, you believe giving up the information would be good for them, maybe get them out of their miserable condition. this sounds like it's something that's intended to break someone, even maybe them less useful as a source of information. >> the evidence suggests that the subjects that went through this treatment, they did become compliant. they did begin to accept their fate as permanent. there is no evidence, actually, they ...