i don t believe there s a death spiral. i don t believe it s getting ready to collapse. that s certainly not the case in california. you re a congress person. and you re going to have to vote on this at some point. do you have insurance company lobbyists for instance coming to you saying this isn t a death spiral, it s exploding, you need to bail us out your need to do something? no, i don t. the insurance companies have not been lobbying us. this has been a big win for the insurance companies. requiring everybody to have insurance coverage? you know, it s definitely been a big win. in california we attempted to pass a couple of ballot measures that would give our insurance commissioner more control over keeping premiums lower? but insurance companies put in tens of millions of dollars and defeated those initiatives. so problems people say are because of obamacare, they re not necessarily because of the affordable care act, it s because there s not enough control on the insurance
keeping premiums lower? but insurance companies put in tens of millions of dollars and defeated those initiatives. so problems people say are because of obamacare, they re not necessarily because of the affordable care act, it s because there s not enough contl on the insce companies themselves. how long have you been in congress, congresswoman? i m in my seveh year now and i have voted over 60 times against the repeal. so let me ask you this. your seventh year now. have you ever seen a piece of legislation of this magnitude being moved this quickly in your congressional career. no, and isn t this the same thing the rains accused the democrats of doing a year before i got here? we are voting on this bill and it hasn t even been scored by the cbo. we re expecting the cbo score in the next couple of days but right now we believe the cbo is going to show that about 15 million people will lose their coverage. do you think there is any way to stop this in the house? i mean, it s s