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I learned about the secret service or at least the particular group within it over the course of this process has definitely raised my eyebrows andse my concern. that's something that, you know, could be part of our report. i don't know. it could be part of future oversight activity by congress. >> i canvi follow up on that? i no he that tony ornado is of this. had keith kellog pushed back on tony ornado that wanted to have vice president pence removed from the capitol. do you think tony ornado may have been doing the bidding of the president whendd requesting for the vice president to be remo...

The committee. we fought for investigations into every part of the election we could. >> again, no shame. they just say it right out in the open. and whatever happens under a lot of scrutiny, well that's for sure. a former trump campaign staffer saying, quote, it was rudy and these misfit characters who started calling the shots. the campaign was throwing enough s-h-i-t at the wall to see what would stick. and then there's the january 6th committee for the first time asking a member of the president's family to talk to them voluntarily. they believe that ivanka trump is a first-hand witness to...

Former president's family to talk to them voluntarily. they believe that ivanka trump is a first-hand witness to her father's efforts to pressure mike pence to refuse to certify the election. and they have testimony from keith kellog, pence's national security advisor, that the white house staff thought ivanka could be the only one to convince her father to act as the riot at the capitol raged. quote, did you think that she could help get him to a place where he would make a statement to try to stop this? yes. so you thought that ivanka could get her father to do something about it, to take a ...

I can say that ivanca was of oftentimes the voice of reason. i can say that staff often and myself included, when i was press secretary, would go to her if we were in a sticky basis and say can you please come help talk to your father about this? and she would be successful. so it doesn't surprise me at all when i saw the testimony from keith kellog saying that they kept asking her to go in sand b the voice of reason. i don't know that day what exactly happened with her, what her role was, but i believe she probably went in in and tried to tell him to stop. and fact that he didn't listen just ...

Desist. so she's -- as i say if she would talk she is a very important witness. but i am not holding my breath. >> andrew, they have testimony from general keith that ivanka was in the room when her father was pressuring pence. what's clear about this letter they already have key information from trump's inner circle and others at the white house, snow? >> absolutely they do, don. it's very clear. so keith, kayleigh mcenany, of course you have your luminaries weighing in. there are other references of this letter i find totally fascinating where they say they drop little bread crumbs as it wer...