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Meanwhile congressional leaders have a simple message. "get this done and have the president stay out of it." >> i don't like shutdowns, i don't think they work for anybody. i hope they'll be avoided. i would be open to anything that we can agree on on a bipartisan bases that'll make them pretty hard to encourage. >> when the president stays out of the negotiations we almost, always succeed. when he mixes in, it is a formula for failure. i am asking president trump let congress deal with it on its own. >> the president does not want to compromise and congressional leaders don't want him in the...

Pride and sign a bill that does not include a wall or will he facilitate a government shutdown. maybe he's a step more seriously doing emergency declaration. we have been doing the same exact theater time and time before. it is certainly predictable. >> kelly o'donell, what's your take from the white house? do you think this ends in another government shutdown or how serious are the plans for potential declaring a national emergency? >> well, we have been trying to get at that. where we are left is government officials here working closely with the president will say he's prepared to go the di...

We should point out in that daily caller interview, the president did insist that we are already building the wall. we have a tremendous amount of money, perhaps, that's simply the argument. sam stein and kelly o'donell and garret haake, thank you for all being here. >> joining me now, sir, thanks so much for being here, i want to start with richard shelby who was talking today, he's the chairman of the senate appropriations committee, an important player of all of these talks. here is what he had to say of his hopes for the president's involvement or lack there of. >> but, if it were left to ...

Demand for building his border wall. a demand that president repeated this morning, any discussions without his wall is a waste of time. >> joining me now is kelly o'donell and kasie hunt. kelly, what's happening on capitol hill? >> what's happening to the white house, i should say about this. i am sorry. >> reporter: no problem. the white house sort of backed away from this in an active way. they're allowing this to be a congressional progress where you have lawmakers who do know a great deal of how the process works. if all members of congress have a certain skill level and you have speciali...

>> absolutely. the entire process is happening inside the friction that the president is creating. we need this new wall on top of the wall. they have to give him something that he could call a wall and over ride the veto potentially. i am not sure if the appetite is there for an over ride. >> what would the problem being with an over ride for republicans? would they worry it would make their president look weak? >> exactly. >> they don't want to go against. this committee is the first steering of a traditional relationship. they're serving their own role in the moprocess. >> kelly o'donell an...