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Certain policy items and then when you talk about his staffing, tim, and now it's his daughter, ivanka and his son-in-law whose record financial dealings are being scrutinized as well as that with their security clearances not being up to snuff. so, how the president handles this is how important in your view? by him saying, kelly, you handle it. i mean, what does that say about he not being able to talk to his own daughter and son-in-law about what is proper and improper? >> hard to say that the president has surprised you because the surprise, you shouldn't be surprised by surprise, right? b...

Giving him a hint today, i am sure john kelly will do the right thing, jared is so valuable. he doesn't want to publicly flog the guy, so he is putting him in kelly's lap. and of course the president in the end, it is his decision. and if the president says, in the end, i want him to have this kind of clearance, kelly will have to salute. >> and i am sure he will do the right thing. just to be crystal clear, 13 months for a security clearance is not normal. they can take a while, but don't take this long. if they do take this long, it tells you something. >> it is a long time. 13 mons is a lon...

Son-in-law. and he doesn't have a security clearance because they don't trust him. it is just an absurd situation. >> he reads the daily brief every day. he has requested more classified information and background information than nearly anyone in the white house. gloria, you know, and then he is in the midst of this shakespearean drama. >> well, they are not close. john kelly is somebody that jared and ivanka wanted to get the position of chief of staff. but in my reporting, it seems they have become more and more distant. the president has dumped this entire thing in kelly's lap.