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The growth rate up. >> right, the top rate in 1981 was 70%, right? so reagan using kemp law knocked it down to 50, and then tax reform knocked it down to 28. and then a quarter century of growth ensured. it also made possible the defense budget which helped knock the soviet union out of existence. >> so you're a kemp guy. >> a convert, i was already there. >> i know him personally as we all did. he was a good guy, socially, with people, minorities. and i think we can use a little this today. an idea of having strong views, an idea of having strong views on the right and he respected people and...

Reform knocked it down to 28. and then a quarter century of growth ensured. it also made possible the defense budget which helped knock the soviet union out of existence. >> so you're a kemp guy. >> a convert, i was already there. >> i know him personally as we all did. he was a good guy, socially, with people, minorities. and i think we can use a little this today. an idea of having strong views, an idea of having strong views on the right and he respected people and didn't make fun of people. >> he is relevant to the present context. >> he is not really the same personality stripe as donald ...

And works against carter with the idea i can be the second santa claus, give away money, tax money. >> and kemp converted him. so kemp invented -- he took the idea of supply side economics and made it political. >> lower the taxes but lower the rate, the marginal rate to get the growth rate up. >> right, the top rate in 1981 was 70%, right? so reagan using kemp law knocked it down to 50, and then tax reform knocked it down to 28. and then a quarter century of growth ensured. it also made possible the defense budget which helped knock the soviet union out of existence. >> so you're a kemp guy. ...