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He attached himself to the staff of jeffrey clark. jeffrey clark was the head of the environment and natural resources division who ultimately became this wannabe attorney general. wanted to perpetuate the big lie for trump if he could have the job. what's never really made sense about jeffrey clark and his rise to prominence, he's not an election lawyer. he has no prior experience but he's crafted this -- i'm he not going to say not within the confines of the law but technically very succinctly crafted plan that the states could use to upset elections and return victory for trump. how that ca...

The question is what does he have to say? will he talk about how this full relationship played into perpetuation of the big lie. >> joits, help me to understand something. in some of these transcripts we gain an understanding that john eastman himself at points indicated his strategy regarding pence and fake electors was not going to hold up in a court of law. yes, but trump heard about this. once he gets something stuck in his head, it's hard to convince him otherwise. i'm paraphrasing. that's the essence of it, right? there's a consciousness of guilt, if you will. how do you convince the you...