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The future of the party. that they have seen some success down that road. and they have, haven't they? look at rick perry. >> well, i think if i were a republican, i might point to chris christie instead. i think that in many of these cases -- >> that was a joke. it's okay, erin. >> i am allowed to laugh at rick perry. i mean, i would say rick perry is very much the kind of governor that i think ken cusp can cuccinelli would be if he somehow manages to beat the odds. in fact, just today, the laws he pushed through, through special session in texas ended up in court. so i think if somehow ken c...

>> and he's kind of a leading brand of that kind of republican conservatism, isn't he? >> right. he seems to be standing to thwart progress. hillary clinton said thatterry is there to represent progress. ken looks like he is trying to thwart. >> john, two conservative editorial boards in the state have refused to endorse ku cuccinel cuccinelli. let me read why. on social issues such as abortion and homosexual rights, cuccinelli not only takes stands we find objectionable, but pursues his divisive agenda with a stride en see that was unbecoming in an attorney general and would be unbecoming in ...