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specialist in the mall's security office. what did he do when this attack started? >> he works as a computer engineer -- that is what he does. he is designated as a computer engineer in the mall. and he works with the cameras, with the security cameras. >> so he would have seen everything as it was happening in realtime, which must have been absolutely terrifying for him. what did he tell you about the incident that he saw? >> one of the things he said was he was pretty terrified. he has never seen anyone shoot, apart from tv and movies. and one of the things he said was it was really, really frightening for him to see somebody shoot a person and another person actually dies. that really shook him up. >> reporter: and did it seem to
the all-new 2014 lexus is. it's your move. i want to express personally my condolences to not only president kenyatta, who lost family members in the attack, but to the kenyan people. we stand with them against this terrible outrage, that this
going beyond the al-qaeda affiliation. they believe that al-qaeda is involved in the coordination. and also, the kenyan minister believes it is global terror forces. they believes that al-shabaab is certainly the main force behind this. this has gone on far beyond the kenyan attack, this is something they believe that al-shabaab is not just capable on their own. >> and her brother, moses, works at the west gate mall, he survived the attack by locking himself in the control room. tell me, judith, how is your brother? >> he is well and safe. he is fine, a little shaken up. but he is fine and safe. >> yes, a huge relief for you and everyone obviously that knows him. now, moses works at the west gate mall as a computer
if you look at the way they created this, it is created for maximum attack and exposure. that is why they are prolonging the attack as long as they can, because the more the attack goes on, they hope they get more recruits and more funding. >> and of course, we have the general assembly which is maximum publicity for them and the world leaders. in terms of the makeup of this particular group of terrorists that carried out this operation, there is a suggestion, unconfirmed yet, that there could be two, maybe three americans, plus other brits and europeans. if that turns out to be true, what does that tell us as far as al-qaeda and al-shabaab, as far as it spreads? >> i am not surprised there are americans involved with shabaab. there are actually 50 americans that left the united states and went to join the shabaab -- a few of them died. >> would they be of somali
i'm the republican anti-christ. we'll begin with the story tonight. the deadly attack on the shopping mall in nairobi. what is the latest in terms of how the operation is still ongoing? how many terrorists are alive, and how many people do they believe have actually died in reality here. >> reporter: well, the latest from the kenyan authorities believe this is the end game, a game that has been going on for quite sometime now. they announced they were in the final stages of their assault. they have said that they cleared out all of the hostages. they don't really want to give definitive figures, saying that three of the hostages passed away. we were given a figure of ten to 15 hostage-takers. so we're going to speculate that there are about ten remaining in there with the hostages. they say they have cleared most