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Aides subpoenaed -- you're right, not a lot of political fallout for them not cooperating. i guess they could go on steve bannon's internet show and pound their chest. but there is a consequence it would appear if -- liz cheney has said kevin ccarthy should be subpoenaed. are you picking up anything cross pressures for them to cooperate with a bipartisan congressional investigation should they be asked to? >> the thing that is most interesting about that whole line is mccarthy, if he doesn't -- let's say he was subpoenaed, they just asked him do speak because according to him he talked to the ...

They were not successful in the last election. these laws are just all daggers pointed at the heart of democracy. anyone peddling the big lie is doing so at great risk to our whole system of checks and balances. >> yeah, indeed. one last thing. i would be remiss if i didn't ask you. we now have speaker pelosi having introduced a bill to establish this january 6 commission, i think very important for the country. there will be 13 members. speaker pelosi can choose eight. she's seriously considering a republican. the remaining five would be selected and here's the hitch after consultation with k...