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True partner in a diplomatic end. they never had any intentions, of course, of complying with the international norms with regards to not pursuing nuclear weapons. and, you know, in any type of negotiation, you need two honest partners, two honest brokers. and iran has broken every rule for over three decades. and i don't think there's any sense of seriousness here. this is -- this is a clear effort to -- you know, it's within then to elect a hostage taker as the president of their country. that's their business, although no one in the united states believes -- few people here believe it was a...

Through the years, haven't we? >> we have indeed. i have to say, this tops them all. >> well, you know, the idea of hamid coming into the united states as an official delegate from iran, the u.n. ambassador, it is yet one more ongoing slap in the face to international justice and what takes place in a civilized world. >> kevin, do you remember him? can you tell us about him? >> well, you know, i haven't had an opportunity to actually explore whether or not he was a part of any of my particular interrogations, but we do know, of course, everyone now knows, acknowledges he was an integral part o...

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