Tapes, but the letter from the 1/6 committee says nothing of the capitol hill police tapes. so, they're really not -- it's really -- he's not addressing what they allege. they find out about a tour and they're saying that his denial -- this. there were no tours, no large groups, no one with maga hats on, they have evidence that contradicts that. they don't say they saw something different on the capitol police tapes. >> no. >> this is an interesting response from mr. loudermilk. >> well, it's sort of trying to slice and dice it rather than to be up front about it. it sounds like the january 6t...