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Recently as this year. let's go straight to the incoming chairman of the house judiciary committee jerry nadler of new york. thank you for joining us. i want to read a key line from the southern zwridistrict of ne york. cohen acted with the intent to influence the 2016 election in particular. and as cohen himself has now admitted, with respect to both payments, he acted in coordination with and at the direction of individual one. individual one is president trump. prosecutors are saying that the president ordered michael cohen to commit two campaign finance felonies. does that rise to the leve...

What does that tell you? that tells you they already have a lot of other stuff to go forward with these other investigations and we're finished with flynn. so if you're anywhere near this, you should get a lawyer. i mean, i never thought i'd give advice to these peel, get a lawyer because mueller does, you know, knows more than bubkes at this steak. >> harry another key line. a senior government leaders should be held to the highest standard. that's true, but what bearing does that have on the legal case against flynn or any other public officials? >> oh, you know, i think it bes double duty h...

So if you're anywhere near this, you should get a lawyer. i mean, i never thought i'd give advice to these peel, get a lawyer because mueller does, you know, knows more than bubkes at this steak. >> harry another key line. a senior government leaders should be held to the highest standard. that's true, but what bearing does that have on the legal case against flynn or any other public officials? >> oh, you know, i think it bes double duty here. you know, on the one hand, it says flynn -- and this is after a section that says how serious the lies were and in fact, rebuts what will giuliani was ...

Pleaded guilty to perjury. >> imagine what information he's able to provide. over the course of a year. remember, he pled guilty a year ago. had a series of 19 meetings to actually hold the attention span of special counsel. and had them delay his sentencing four separate times. what he must have provided must have been -- although it's under the black ink, substantial enough they were able to rely on it, corroborate it, and probably could not get someplace else. one of the main reasons you have somebody to be a cooperator or rely on the information is that this person is so uniquely positione...

>> i think for me, the key line in the interview was occupation of the sea. 4 1/2 years ago, russia took over crimea. and now the ukrainian government believes that russia is trying to take over the sea which is a vital waterway for this country. in fact, 40% of ukraine's exports pass through the azov sea. so if russia were to take control of that waterway, it could cripple this country. >> and president trump will get that chance in a couple of days, face-to-face with vladimir putin to make that statement. richard engle, thank you very much. let's bring in one of the reporters who conducted t...