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My family is making a grant to eliminate their student loans. >> in the crowd, surprised students and relatives celebrate. there's nothing new about expensive college but it is now a crisis. consider this. u.s. student loan debt is at its highest point ever. over a trillion. surpassing debt on cards and credit cards. celebrating smith's generosity but his contribution is also highlighting a key problem that faces young people. they're taking on so much debt with a system that has no path for forgiveness. so some are wondering whether this is something to not only celebrate but consider in poli...

Plans to expand it to 150 institutions this fall and then use it broadly the following year. shannon, what is your opinion of this adversity score? i think not showing it to the students is an interesting -- >> shannon: i think that's a key problem. you can't challenge it in any way. if they are using data you didn't provide, they are going to your school and looking at those kinds of things -- in my case, i didn't grow up with money. we were very lower to middle class. but if you look at the school he went to, that would have counted against me because it was a nice private school and the onl...

>> and it was somebody with credibility. >> be -- better than what we had before, yeah. >> reporter: but overall, a key problem remained. >> terrible witnesses. >> reporter: meaning detectives spoke with other people who'd also heard the men talk about the murder, but they were not the type a jury would likely believe. much of what they'd say sounded like drug and booze soaked gossip. there wasn't enough certainly to support charging peewee. but, thought the prosecutor, maybe he could find a way to go after barr and mcmannis. and he had an idea. bring some of the key witnesses before a grand j...

Syria, then it starts being pushed back first in the obama administration, then particularly under president trump who made this his top foreign policy priority who really changed the rules of engagement, freed u.s. forces and our allies to do what they needed to do and you see fewer isis attacks in europe and fewer recruits. the ideologies will also suffer from the military defeat but, again, these people probably aren't going to become good, classical liberal democrats, they're still going to be malevolent force. arthel: do they have what it takes to reforel o form or regrp somewhere else or...

Busting these companies is a big deal. there is a lot of people saying well, i am a little more moderate than that. i don't want to do that. they are taking advance positions of regulating them than they did say two weeks ago. i have to say hold the conversation. >> you can't say she's not running on specific issues. >> if you think about this. the u.k. have been very much more on top of this than us. we are just getting to thinking of regulating them. that's our key problem here. >> thank you very much. e.j. will be back. taylor lorens, thank you to the show. >> "am joy" focuses on ohio voter...