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That this country needs. >> if keystone doesn't work on the highway bill where else would you put it? are you going to put it everywhere? >> i'll find the right fit. that could be an appropriations measure, as i say. that could be another energy bill. i tried this before. the last bill i was on the conference committee and i had keystone in there until the very end. we dropped it out when we made the final deal. so this is not the first time. but we'll find the right fit. >> and what if the president says no? there's a lot of rumors out there that he's close to a decision. you have the propert...

Of the imagination. if they have differences with this president, it's not because they need to survive in november. it's because they don't agree with him and more crucially, because they don't feel like they owe it to him to stay in line or keep the criticisms muted. it may a consequence of the type of relations that have been commented upon between obama and congressional democrats over the years. of course, there's a lot of other democrats, mary landrieu comes to mine and ones in red states that are vulnerable. i think there's -- they may indeed have honest differences with the president b...

The president. >> yeah. >> absolutely nothing he does will please everybody. but he gets paid to make these tough decisions. the reality though, even if you look at the most liberal reports here, maybe 5,000 jobs at most, temporary jobs -- >> some are saying north of 40,000. >> right. keystone doesn't even say that. the state department looks at this and keystone looks at this. a few thousand jobs. we cut several hundred thousand government jobs under this administration. if we invested some of the money in hiring more teachers and educators and getting resources into things that can produce l...

Will be like. >> i'm mitt romney and i approve this message. >> it had a good beat to it. a lot of throbbing business machinery going there. it did sound right. nice music. >> nice music. it's not quite morning in america, but he's trying. it's an important thing to do. he needs to define who he is and what he's going to stand for. but these things don't make sense. keystone doesn't add that many jobs. replacing obamacare with what? and rich people are job creators. we're the job creators. consumers are the job creators and that's what the obama campaign is really going to have to hit him hard...

Down. >> you this i-it's possible under conditions of better economic growth that is not going to be so toxic to sort of say we need to raise the payroll tax cut? >> yes, there are few steps congress can take that will kick start the jump-start that a tax cut will. >> and as somebody who cares about the environment and believes keystone doesn't create the jobs that it does, and why do you think -- >> keystone pipeline is a pipeline that brings tar sands, and it's opposed by the republican governor of nebraska, and that extraction is more carbon intensive. the state department had to evaluate w...