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>> this is just what they do. espionage. greg: i mean, this country is run by next kgb guide. >> also, please, don't be any under any illusion that the us doesn't do this. all governments do this. greg: and it's mistaken think that it's actually an offense of action. sometimes it's defensive like you said people and spies over just to see what someone is over up to. you have to. it's a mistake to accuse the country of attacking when some of them do attack but it's just so weird that people were not cold warriors then and when russia is one eighth the size of the ussr now they're worried and it...

[laughter] >> this is just what they do. espionage. greg: i mean, this country is run by next kgb guide. >> also, please, don't be any under any illusion that the us doesn't do this. all governments do this. greg: and it's mistaken think that it's actually an offense of action. sometimes it's defensive like you said people and spies over just to see what someone is over up to. you have to. it's a mistake to accuse the country of attacking when some of them do attack but it's just so weird that people were not cold warriors then and when russia is one eighth the size of the ussr now they're wor...

[laughter] >> this is just what they do. espionage. greg: i mean, this country is run by next kgb guide. >> also, please, don't be any under any illusion that the us doesn't do this. all governments do this. greg: and it's mistaken think that it's actually an offense of action. sometimes it's defensive like you said people and spies over just to see what someone is over up to. you have to. it's a mistake to accuse the country of attacking when some of them do attack but it's just so weird that people were not cold warriors then and when russia is one eighth the size of the ussr now they're wor...

>> this is just what they do. espionage. greg: i mean, this country is run by next kgb guide. >> also, please, don't be any under any illusion that the us doesn't do this. all governments do this. greg: and it's mistaken think that it's actually an offense of action. sometimes it's defensive like you said people and spies over just to see what someone is over up to. you have to. it's a mistake to accuse the country of attacking when some of them do attack but it's just so weird that people were not cold warriors then and when russia is one eighth the size of the ussr now they're worried and it...