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are — bronwen maddox, director and chief executive of chatham house, an independent organisation, which under its royal charter exists "to advance "the sciences of international politics, economics, "and jurisprudence". the charter dates from 1926, bronwen maddox from last month, but her appointment is the culmination of a distinguished career reporting the world. michael goldfarb has been a foreign correspondent for npr, national public radio, in the united states. his podcast is the first rough draft of history. the rough draft of history. latest episode features the story the la...

in the studio to discuss all that are — bronwen maddox, director and chief executive of chatham house, an independent organisation, which under its royal charter exists "to advance "the sciences of international politics, economics, "and jurisprudence". the charter dates from 1926, bronwen maddox from last month; but her appointment is the culmination of a distinguished career reporting the world. michael goldfarb has been a foreign correspondent for npr, national public radio, in the united states. his podcast is the first rough draft of history. stefanie bolzen is uk and ireland ...

Kherson back, and then get the missiles, and the tanks, and now it was absolutely impossible that the president of to united states would come to the war zone, and it happened. so then it means for us that the victory is possible, too. it is possible for us to be living in a peaceful and liberated country as the winners of this war. >> what did it mean for the ukrainian people to see the american president walking side by side with ukrainian president in a war zone? >> for me, it means that finally the president of the united states is taking the upperhand, the first hand. over the last year, ...

Stephanie, what do you think is the potential significance around kherson, is it about morale? i think it's both. and it is strategically important. _ if the ukrainian army, | trip succeed in taking, getting kherson back, - which i think it is not likely to happen quickly, but they are making very slow progress. - it is morally very important for the ukrainians, - but strategically, - it is to show that thanks to the weapon deliveries - and the equipment that is now deployed, the ukrainians . are very smart and they are using it and driving - the russian forces back and the russian forces have...

And they are not sure how long she will be there. since brexit happened - there have been three prime ministers, so why would - they agree something of a deal if they don't know how long she is going to stay? - a really good point. let's move on to talk about ukraine, if we can. stephanie, what do you think is the potential significance around kherson, is it about morale? i think it's both. and it is strategically important. _ if the ukrainian army succeeds in taking, l getting kherson back, - which i think it is not likely to happen quickly, but they are making very slow progress. - it is mor...