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Something that i couldn't do in a way i couldn't do it, but people love you here. people love you here, especially the black folks here, right? you said in the debate that you come from the black community. the support that you have, you're ahead in the polls, is largely in part from the black community. what did you mean you come from the black community? >> what i mean is when i was a kid, we moved out from scranton, pennsylvania, where there were no african-americans. we moved to a state that has the eighth largest black population in america, percent of population. most people don't know t...

>> i'm not defending -- >> i think a kid being on the board, i think it's shady, i think it makes no sense -- >> it's shady? it's corrupt. >> i don't see joe biden benefiting anywhere -- >> no, this is where his son -- >> you can give evidence. but nobody has given evidence so far. >> have you read "second empire"? >> i have not. >> we have to sit down and talk about it. >> you do not agree with the premise of my question. let me give you just in general. i think in general. >> it's not circling the wagons. >> okay. in general, if a president does in fact have a quid pro quo for a counterpart ...

And what do you make of his status remaining in the evangelical community given what apparently even some of his insider folks knew? >> well, it's interesting in the era of the russia investigation, now the new trendy thing is for your investigators to be investigated. i'd love to see more scrutiny landing on jerry falwell jr.'s church. he is not a pastor. it's very important to remember that. his brother got the church. he got the school when reverend falwell sr. left us. now, i had the pleasure of debating reverend falwell on bill maher's show once, and he was a remarkable guy, reverend falw...

Project. meanwhile, they claim it would cure these social ills. it would exacerbate all of them badly through energy poverty. >> sean: joe, the '70s was the ice age is coming. then global warming. now we just say climate change. but it's really predicated on what? a battle against capitalism, the premise that man on earth is pillaging the planet for profit? >> well, first of all, hl mankin, who was a democrat, said it correctly. the urge to save humanity is almost always a false face for the urge to rule it. you're dragging the majesty of the creation, weather, climate, all these things i've l...

Tropes seem to follow him everywhere. there is fire where that anti-semitic smoket is. >> you say that trump sets the tone. he has allowed bigots go about their business. >> absolutely. the ways in which he condemns racists where you can see it so half-hearted. it's like a kid being forced to do something by his parents. >> you mentioned world war ii because when donald trump said that he was a nationalist, he didn't just off the cuff say he was a nationalist. at that point, i think, kind of the racism and anti-semitism that he had been winking at in these dog whistles i think. >> sean: of cou...