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You spoke with him earlier today, who actually was in the mall when it happened, he heard the ricochets and went about his job of evacuating single kids from the shooting area. it was just a surreal experie e experience. >> chris, you have been there so long i imagine you've spoken with witnesses from inside. what did they tell you? what were some of the stories they told you about what they experienced and the fear that they felt with this shooter on the loose? >> issue at first was disbelief. they couldn't believe there was this active shooter. like specialist oaklee said a kid ran by saying...

To write. i couldn't think of anything but bad jokes for these stories. >> bill, what do you make of this? >> on one hand, everyone in this country is wining about how it is so hard to find good educators. we find one, so says her record, and what do we do? fire her for a couple of p i can tours that are nothing more than bikinis, lingerie bikinis. having said that, i am not sure a counselor is a teacher. but whatever type of counseling she does, she apparently does it very well. >> i never had a good guidance counselor, and they never told me anything. the real villain in this is the kid. if ...

The cafeteria. i was near the entrance to the cafeteria. i was doing this little morning walk thing i do to get my energy out before i go work. and i just heard this -- it sounded like somebody was slamming plywood against the table. so it didn't really register as gunshots until people started screaming and running. and a kid ran passed me, bolted out the door. and, for a second, i thought i should do that, too. safest option. but i remember there were -- i just had come from the library and there were people in there and the gunshots went loud. so i warned them. after warning the people in t...

You got 35 years in there. when thing that happens in a revival, national awakening, you all of a sudden get interested in your history again. they pull out the scroll and say we used to be like that. malachi 3-6. if you do the history, look at ratings on history shows through the roof. that's a sign. second sign, if you look at every revival that happened scripturally or historically, because it spanned decades is transgenerational. the thing about the preachers, you have davis, the greatest orator, jonathan edwards, george whitefield and gilbert tenant, samuel cooper, great preachers. what i...

Revival, national awakening, you all of a sudden get interested in your history again. they pull out the scroll and say we used to be like that. malachi 3-6. if you do the history, look at ratings on history shows through the roof. that's a sign. second sign, if you look at every revival that happened scripturally or historically, because it spanned decades is transgenerational. the thing about the preachers, you have davis, the greatest orator, jonathan edwards, george whitefield and gilbert tenant, samuel cooper, great preachers. what is cool is there was a young kid that ran around with thi...