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Specific mission. if it's about opening up science an opportunity to people who may be have not felt that they had a track at nasa i think we would say that's a laudable goal but what do you make of it? >> we need to revive a movement that puts excellence first. excellence in space exploration, math, science, medicine, sports, music. we need to start putting excellence first again. in my opinion diversity can be an important part, an important means of the end toward achieving excellence. if i had to choose between the pursuit of excellence on the pursuit of invisible tableau of diversity in a...

He joins us tonight had whatever happened to the party of science? if you get to the point where you don't even believe in math, why should i listen to you? >> for small, we are not saying -- but i don't think anyone in the world is saying that math in and of itself is racist. it's how it's applied. wake with anything, we can say science can be applied in ways they can be racially biased, math certainly can be used as proxies for a way to teach subjects using ethnic studies. >> tucker: a coffee cup could be used as a deadly weapon but we don't teach kids that it's dangerous because it is not i...

Professor at the university of maryland joins us tonight. whatever happened to the party of science? if you get to the point where you don't even believe in math, why should i listen to you? >> festival, we are we're not saying -- i don't think anyone in the world is saying that math in and of itself is racist. it's how it's applied. it like with anything, we can say science can be applied in ways that can be racially biased. matt certainly can be used as praxis or as a way to teach subjects using ethnic studies. >> tucker: a coffee cup can be used as a deadlydi weapon, but e don't teach kids ...

>> did you have a frame of reference about jesus? >> he is the savior. that's how i go about it. and so i -- without apology i'm a christian. i'm not -- i was raised as a christian scientist but i'm not a practicing christian scientist at this time day although i still observe many of the tenets. he is the guy. he is the one. >> when you got the role, and you start to research it did you learn anything? >> well, you know, it's funny, maybe it's a karma or a kids math kind of moment. different things happen to me all the time when i take a role. the universe sort of conspires to fill in the bla...

You are right, this is another example of the government taking over for the parent. the scope of the school's duties are to teach my kids math, language, history, don't teach them values, religion, don't do the things parents are supposed to do. when did we agree it is okay for schools to tell kids anything about it? my views a between me and my child. what are the school administered is getting off surpassing my role as the father? >> maybe they live with a grandma or grandpa, a very delicate situation and they need the school to play this particular role, is it okay then? >> i think the dif...