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She said that back in july and i'm sure many republicans who don't know her, didn't take her seriously then. but as the head of the democratic snoerl campaign committee this year, she just razed the number of rim senators to 20. when patty purry first won her seat in the senate in 1992, there were three woman senators. patty murray is one of the three power senators in the senate, if she's ready to go off the cliff, then she won't be going alone.

Fight now. and so i think he's more than willing to also go over the cliff. one, he knows what the fight is. two, as you said, it's not exactly a cliff. it's more of a slope. and he and the nation actually have a few more weeks, maybe a couple more months before the cliff really hits. >> yeah. the president is in a stronger position in every way, including tactically. let's listen to what he said in july on the campaign trail, in terms of his veto power that he has in this situation. >> will you veto any legislation that extends all of the bush tax cuts even to what you call the wealthy? >> ye...

Accountable to anything. the people that lost are the people who we held accountable. held accountable for what they had to say and the bad decisions that they made. the guy that lost the election is the guy that lowered the taxes for the high income people. i don't know where their idea that the president isn't going somewhere with this. i'm curious to see how it comes out. and again i feel like i wish we could change the language on this so that it didn't seem like we were taking america with us. >> but it did give us the thelma and louise clip. jonathan capeheart, it's not exactly a cliff, ...

>> do you think of yourself more as a thelma or a louise? >> well i've got the red hair. it is a noble thing to go off a cliff some time, but maybe it's not the perfect imagery. it's one of those things, i feel like the thing we need to get across to people as lovely as it is to say going off the cliff or whatever, this is a principled stand to make. this is not going off the cliff, you know, wiely e. coyote, it's trying to get the republican party to do the right thing. >> i believe they voted for higher top income tax rates, the obama position. the other piece of this cliff is a big spending...

Whoever taped that 47 video. >> i think it goes to the video. >> i do too. >> the gaffe is when you accidentally say the truth. >> thank you for joining me tonight. >> thanks, lawrence. >> coming up, rush lam because admitted to his radio audience that he told them a big lie. tweet your guesses about what rush admits he was lying about. and the answer will be in tonight's rewrite. and cecile richards joins me with the record wins for women last night and jonathan cape hard and ana marie cox are here. i'm going to see if i can get them to go off the cliff.