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Mattis was able to thread the needle and try to make his points and, quite frankly, educate president trump on some of these issues and so the departure of him is something that is, i think, going down in the history books. >> tammy: welcome a christian right and is a former state department senior advisor to trump and george w. bush administrations. he joins us now. christian, i really don't recall what word saying that when barack obama fired mattis that that was a tragedy. that i missed that part? >> [laughs] the pearl coaching really has gotten out of control. mattis did what he was about ...

Decisions about american foreign policy and there is also a shake-up of some of his senior leadership. the president and first lady left late christmas night under tight security to visit american forces serving in iraq at christmas time. some of the message was clearly to us those men and women a merry christmas and to thank them for their dedicated service. while the president has announced plans to withdraw troops from nearby syria, he says he plans to keep them in iraqun where they can still launch strikes against isis. >> when i became president, they were a very dominant group. they were...

At the same time, wouldn't you agree, though, that certainly the customs and border patrol is swamped and that i.c.e. is swamped? we've got -- they are releasing hundreds right now in el paso but we aresw dealing with thousands of people who clearly, they are releasing them based on the family separation act, that they just -- they are just overwhelmed at this point, regardless of -- >> yes. you are absolutely right, tammy.d you talk to any agents who work the border area, and that isis exactly the kind of word that they would use, that they aree overwhelmed. one other point that is interestin...

Financial boon to -- no offense -- but the cable news. especially a couple other networks. it's not moving america. the president was at 37% on election day when he won. if you believe the worst poll, he's at 45 today. and so what people focus in on is where is the economy and isn't it great that we are projected potentially 4% growth of gdp under donald trump. that's really what matters. >> laura: how many well-known people do you know who have demt with people who make allegations -- i don't know what happened. i do know when you are well known, you are a target. you were a target in other w...

We are going to talk about things. >> laura: so did bush. so did clinton and so did reagan. >> i will give you an air of dignity for a while and we will see where it goes. >> laura: what frustrates him the most right now? >> i think probably what frustrates him the most is that he has an economy that's booming. people are back to work. black unemployment is under 6%. he is doing all the things he promised to do. and he's competing with a 24/7 media cycle that really doesn't profit on -- >> laura: good news. >> not even good news. but fairness and that there is two sides of a story. we have 24/...