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People who have a conscience. you're killing somebody. and there's no denying that. and especially when we know that several people have been declared innocent with the new scientific techniques, and we're not real sure if the individual we're executing this evening or next week is really guilty. and that in itself, that kind of doubt. the other thing most of us know all the research which indicates that capital punishment does not deter. and it seems so illogical to say to the public we do not want you to kill, and to demonstrate that we're going to kill individuals. >> the man who was killed...

He had bad legal representation in the trial that got him the death penalty. but here, again, there's no basic question about his guilt. is the justice of the death penalty fundamentally about the goodness or badness of the person who is to be killed? is it about their guilt or innocence? or is it an intrinsic question about whether or not the governments that we build for ourselves are governments that should kill prisoners? to the extent that killing prisoners is one of the jobs we ask of state government employees, it's not an abstract thing. it is a physical job to be done. and it is a job...

And that's because of who we are, not who they are. vice president dick cheney, of course, argued the opposite. vice president cheney argued and continues to argue that torture is justified, that it shouldn't even be called torture because of who the united states did it to. >> you've heard endlessly about waterboarding. it happened to three terrorists. to call this a program of torture is to libel the dedicated professionals who have saved american lives and to cast terrorists and murderers as innocent victims. >> is it not torture if it is done to bad people or if it is useful in some way? t...

In the trial that got him the death penalty. but here, again, there's no basic question about his guilt. is the justice of the death penalty fundamentally about the goodness or badness of the person who is to be killed? is it about their guilt or innocence? or is it an intrinsic question about whether or not the governments that we build for ourselves are governments that should kill prisoners? to the extent that killing prisoners is one of the jobs we ask of state government employees, it's not an abstract thing. it is a physical job to be done. tools. is a job that requires set of tools to k...

And most of the victims' families that i talked with, they thought they were going to get a lot of relief or closure from the execution. and in most cases they did not. >> dr. allen ault, former warden from the georgia prison where troy davis was executed last night, former state commissioner of corrections in georgia and in colorado and mississippi, sir, i feel like your perspective on this, it's not only invaluable to us in terms of covering this, but your decision to write to corrections officials last night and put this into words before that execution was a real act of bravery and made so...