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Addressing concerns about this. he did not get on the bandwagon. he still has not gotten on the bandwagon. at times i wonder if he's got special permission to oppose the president or at least not cheerlead for them. this is in line for how he's been for a long time and i'm hoping it starts a momentum because i too believe this bill does not move away from obamacare in any substantial sense. >> all of this happening as many are pointing out without hearings. in politics as we all know, where there is action there is reaction. and where there is void, it is often filled. and i wonder you as some...

To pass it and obviously if you're in a republican primary you want to come up with a reason for that from the right rather than the left? >> i think most of the -- especially mike lee and if ben sass for instance is to come out and say he's against back sawin he's against it, i think they are going to approach it in the right and they're going to say that this is not a bill that moves in the correct direction. it doesn't address the issues that we have in terms of health care. truce and others have said this is the right point to get to a step at something more similar. but yeah, approaching ...

Seems like the longer these bills are out in public, p even without hearings, maybe you can explain why don't they want to hold hearings, but the longer they're out the more opposition they face from doctors, insurers, and the people in your home state. >> when emotions are involved not everybody is clear thinking. i think that's one issue. number two, there's a lot of inequity right now this health care bill is about medicaid and purchasing through the exchange. both are broke sben need to be fixed. this bill cannot fix all the problems but it'll be the first step to fixing it. i can't wait t...

They were told if we get the senate, the house, the presidency, well, now they have all three and the way the conservatives look at it is, this isn't a big enough departure from obamacare. so i think a lot of people just -- they're not afraid of the effects of trumpcare in the same sense that democrats are concerned about it. i think it's really they don't believe it's conservative enough. and the senators are reacting to that. i think i heard ron johnson is more on the fence now than he was earlier. and now obviously mike lee has come out hard against it. and i expect overs to follow suit. >>...

Those people are letting their voice be heard as well. we all ran on repealing obamacare and it's time the senate did their job. >> if these votes continue to crumble, and mccain is out, and there isn't a health care vote by august, what are you asking folks to do? is there any point you ask folks to move on? what are you going to do if there's no vote? >> they're going to do it. i understand where everybody is at right now. they have to find a way to repeal obamacare, they have to find a way to get this bill so we can get to the next step, by starting to drive costs of health care down. >> co...