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Prosecution in pakistani courts. the u.s. has insisted that he is covered by this diplomatic immunity and demanded that the spockies turn him over -- pakistanis turn him over. the pakistanis have let this become very political. today a court in pakistan ruled that he does not qualify for diplomatic immunity, which means that if things go forward, he'll have to stand trial. this is as big a mess as i've seen between these two countries. allies in a long time. it's one that's making people both in the u.s. and in the pakistani government pretty nervous. >> look, we'll get into the larger geopoli...

Of its own against domestic terrorists who have been killing isi officers by the dozens who are also based in the tribal areas. so the realty that i think both sides understand is that they need each other. but, you know, they are like classic married couple who can't stop fighting. a friend said to me the other day that a divorce would be too bad for the kids. you can't consider it. but that they need counseling in a hurry. and this case of raymond davis is a perfect example. absent some intervention, some way of resolving this, it's going to go to court. and it's going to be as one of my pak...

Service. this is a proxy war, in fact, isn't it? >> well, it's a battle between two intelligence services. these intelligence services have -- are once allies and cooperated in operations and have been taking pot shots at each other. the cia's chief of station in islamabad two months ago was outed in the pakistani press and had to be with drawn. that followed the chief of the isi, the pakistani service, being named in a new york lawsuit. and he regarded this as the work of the cia and so it's argued this was retaliation. you know, if this -- if this was a married couple, the cia and the isi, i...