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The harshness of the Ardern response to Covid was one reason the 'kindness' factor wore off very quickly

He has a kind side. i just don't quite understand what has happened to him, this kind of sort of combative nasty kind of politicking and appealing to our lowest common denominator. it's terribly disappointing and very upsetting. i mean, you deal with it every night. >> i do. anything for a political purpose, which is -- >> well, as we saw in that interview, he said repeatedly you're going to get so sick. i'm going to win so much you're going to get tired of winning. very charlie sheenest but it doesn't matter, we won. >> should democrats adopt the same language? >> that's a big debate within t...