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Quarter round, but we rehearsed it all many times. >> what's that like, when you're on the receiving end of a dummy round to the face, what is that like? >> it's weird when you're a zombie because you're wearing contact lenses that make you unable to see properly, you've got fake ears on so it's harder to hear people yelling things at you, but yeah, it's very loud. and you just have to be careful, and trust that everybody has done their jobs diligently, and somewhere along the line here, somebody didn't, unfortunately. >> nichelle i was talking to our reporter, as viewers, we take this for gra...

And we don't realize just how dangerous it is. stephanie elan, thank you very much. let's talk about this further with kirk reilly, a stunt man on tv shows "the walking dead", and "fear the walking dead", and michelle turner, cnn contributor, and cohost of entertainment tonight. explain how this works on a set, when you are handling a gun or anyone is handling a gun on set and what you think happened here? >> well, i don't want to get into what i think happened because there are a number of things that could have happened. but oftentimes we do use what are called quarter rounds where you'll ...

Everybody's at a safe distance. sometimes when you want to see the cartridge, they'll take the powder out of the cartridge but leave the cartridge itself in. that can get dangerous if you're switching back and forth between the blanks and the dummy cartridges, like in the instance with brandon lee back on "the crow," they were switching between a dummy cartridge which they themselves had made, which you should not do, pulled the gun powder out of the cartridge, but the forced the dummy into the barrel and they switched to blanks that don't have bullets but have the gun powder, and one plus one...