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Kicked out of the u.s., don't retaliate because we are going to make nice to the incoming administration, the incoming administration will have a whole different attitude about russia, and then asking the russians to vote a certain way on the u.n. security resolution in the settlements in the israeli territory. that's not illegal. what is illegal is denying to the fbi he did it. >> tom? >> to the exact point pete just made, we see in one of the synopsises here, general flynn explained they had been trying to build relationships with the russians and had calls in which he exchanged condolences,...

Conversation i want to bring in our investigations reporter, tom winter, who i have not seen for seven minutes. what does this mean, tom? >> simply put, flynn's team said we still agree that he lied and we are not trying to get out of this, they say, but we have issues with the way the fbi conducted the interview and how this all came about when flynn conducted the calls with the russian ambassador, kislyak. they had a federal form is that a memorandum of the investigation, basically the notes you -- >> anybody who is interviewed formerly by the fbi there's a 302. >> right. we have mueller's t...

The fbi agents who interviewed him indicated in their report that they did not sense from flynn's demeanor or his responses that he was deceptive or trying to lie to them. ultimately, they determined the special counsel's office determined that flynn was lying. and the critical difference, or the critical distinction between those two assessments is that the special counsel's office obtained a transcript of the conversation that michael flynn had with the russian ambassador sergey kislyak. and they knew the substance of what flynn had told kislyak, and they were then able to compare that with ...