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>> reporter: isis isn't included in the deal. in areas it controls, the fighting goes on. the political passion which stoked this conflict for so many years is still strong. people again protested against president assad just as they have been doing since 2011. a peace plan involving russia, turkey and iran will most likely allow assad to stay in power, at least in the short term. it's something his opponents are unlikely to accept. >> i would be personally rather skeptical if assad will survive the way through into the period when there's a united syrian government. >> reporter: the first tes...

According to a new assessment by the u.s. intelligence community. an estimated 23,000 isis fighters have been killed by coalition air strikes in iraq and syria, but isis is still increasing the areas it controls, followers are now as far away as bangladesh and indonesia. >> there's obvious that this organization is generating not only gains in other countries, it's also gaining recruits. >> reporter: up to 30,000 isis fighters and supporters could be inside syria and iraq, according to administration estimates. >> we have not contained isil. >> have they been contained at any time since 2010? ...

York times" suggests air strikes may not do enough to hurt the terrorist group financially. and joining me now, one of the authors of that article, steven lee meyers. welcome to you. we have known about isis smuggling oil, stealing from banks, looting antiquities, ransoming kidnapped foreigners. but there are other sources of income isis has? what are they? >> essentially isis created a form of government in the areas that it controls. and like many governments tax services. they do it in an extortionary way but charge services for all manner of services, including electricity, fees for travel...

But i think that's unlikely. more likely they left and hit the detonator, the remote control trigger and it didn't work. >> the giant puzzle being processed right now as we speak. jim cavanaugh, thanks for your perspective. kelly o'donnell is outside the white house. they just had a briefing there, i understand. senior administration officials. what did you learn? >> well, this was a comprehensive briefing, kate, about issues related to isis and isil and what the administration's picture looks like now. i want to flip through my notes to give you a sense of some various topics. the headline fr...

45 million in ransom alone last year. isis known to sell artifacts on the black market, and while the actual amount of dollars is unknown, officials call the revenue source crucial to the terror group's operation. and another source of income, private donations or money from individuals and other countries. zachary goldman is here, executive director of the center on law and security, which is aned a -- adjunct professor of law at nyu's school of law. so much money and so many different avenues to get it. >> absolutely. the fundamental problem is that isis is a group that controls territory. a...