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There is no indication that capturing the verizon disclosure, that capturing people's telephone mehtadata is illegal. in fact, it appears to be legal under the patriot act. but we haven't had a chance as a country to have a discussion whether we're comfortable with that. and we also haven't done the work, which we need to do, of course, to find out when general alexander and others say this has been important to helping us or contributed to helping us with 50 terror attacks. how important? those of us charged with oversight need to find out, what was it essential, was it tangential? what are w...

Acquired a lot of very important intelligence. >> leon panetta was in charge the day that osama bin laden was killed. >> i often get criticized for saying this, but it's a fact that we got information. even though you may not like the approach that was used. the fact is it was information. >> the team that really carried out the information. >> but panetta says the significance of the information was far from cut and dry. >> was it essential to finding bin laden? i'm not sure. i don't think so. i think there were other bits of intelligence that we could have put together the same pattern that ...

Be? the model would be fannie and freddie. >> they have a monopoly they enjoy. >> not a great monopoly. >> if they deliver to a town with two people. i say-- >> until congress unshackles the postmaster general and those trying to run it, money will be spent propping this up. >> you made the case it should. the bottom line it's uneconomical to go to the middle of nowhere and guarantee mail delivery. it doesn't pay for itself. >> but i don't have a problem-- >> the virtues of unions because they're ingrained in our-- >> fine. >> and in this segment. >> i'm saying, you know, if this is an essenti...

No one else can deliver mail. >> it's not a great monopoly. >> they have to deliver one person in a town of two people, sell them to fed ex and ups and let them operate it. >> until congress unshackles them, it's going to fall on the american taxpayer. >> you just made the case it should. listen, bottom line it's uneconomical to go to the middle of nowhere and guarantee mail delivery. that is just doesn't pay for itself. >> neil: last segment, virtues of unions. they are ingrained in us. in this segment, where are you? >> i'm saying if this is an essential service to the taxpayer we have to su...

Of bringing up jermemiah wright and talking about private equity and or mitt romney's record during the 15 years that he ran bain capital. >> mitt romney has try to avert vert attention away from bain capital, suggesting this is a personal character attack. isn't it essential that we scrutinize romney's career given that it was a whole host of individuals. that brought the global economy to its knees just three years ago.