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But let me say for the record, buying of the painting sounds totally true to me. that is my opinion. >> thomas: but what difference does it say -- does it make. it has nothing to do with what they are trying to do today. and the left is trying, the democrats are trying to begin an impeachment process. they started with a fake dossier to get an fbi investigation and how they are starting with a fake witness to get the impeachment going. that is their agenda. this is the best they've got. this is their star witness. a guy who lied on his bank loans, a guy that lied five times to the irs. lied to...

That's the challenge we put to engineers seven years ago. and in beijing we showed how far we've come. so we have toilets that do this magic thing. they are ten times more expensive than they'll need to be, but we're encouraged we'll get those out, sell them to places like tourist areas and use that volume hopefully over the next five years to get this $500 self-contained toilet. >> when you look at the problem of climate change, and as you said to get to zero emissions involves revolutions in dozens and dozens of crucial parts of the world. you've got the problem of toilets. you've got massiv...

There's 300 million americans and they may be part of the debate but they don't put -- >> shepard: but when you have -- >> let me finish. >> shepard: when you talk like this, the concern is that that one crazy one might then get empowered. we don't know what happened in this case. but overall -- >> we do know what happened. >> shepard: we don't know any of it. >> what difference does it make, shep? >> shepard: seems like the rhetoric is unhelpful -- >> to hold the president responsible -- >> shepard: i didn't hold him responsible -- >> the implication -- >> shepard: let's be fair, chris. the r...

Not on poor people. >> it's a really good idea. i had a great conversation with paul ryan about it. it make as lot of sense. leets talk about some other policies that have been in the news. lately. tariffs. child separation. a spending bill that raises the debt and deficit to staggering levels. frankly, i don't recognize this republican party. is it just that trump has an r next to his name that republicans are sort of okay now with being a party of prekism and ripping families apart and whildly reckless spending? >> hit the emotional issue first. because i think it's important for us to separ...

I think our needs are different. >> so for you it is just racial symbolism? >> no, i mean it is -- oh, my god, that sounds terrible. i'm so much more than just black. i'm very proud to be black, but i think that the same question with being a woman. it seems like it is a rise and an upheaval of something new and different. i think that's legitimate. i think that not just being a woman, but being a black woman is a game changer. >> what difference does it make, the identity of the canned though? who cares if the person is black or if it is white or male or female? >> well, it is part of white p...