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And you get your health care. you know what? all of those folks that were at that town hall meeting, they don't have the ability to cut any of that for that congressman. it's guaranteed. see, this used to be guaranteed. and 80% of the people want it guaranteed because they paid into it for years. but now we've got these radicals and i praise the president for saying it's a radical budget because that is exactly what it is. if your mom is in assisted living, your mom and dad are on medicare and a fixed budget and have a kitchen table issue week after week month after month and you have a congre...

If you're 50 years old and you've been in congress for 20 years, you get a hell of a pension. and you get your health care. you know what? all of those folks that were at that town hall meeting, they don't have the ability to cut any of that for that congressman. it's guaranteed. see, this used to be guaranteed. and 80% of the people want it guaranteed because they paid into it for years. but now we've got these rad cal icals and i praise the president for saying it's a radical budget because that is exactly what it is. if your mom is in assisted living, your mom and dad are on medicare and a ...

Frankly i think people have a right to be skeptical. >> jonas, it is an election year. that's a great point, i have to say. >> the more i worked on that, you know, pushing off the next budget isn't such a bad idea. it's going to be a tough one. there's going to be spending cuts and tax increases but investors don't want to see that this early in the recovery. in europe, they're trying these cuts and these increases sooner and their stock markets are underperforming ours and invest others don't us to solve the deficit problem in the next year. long term definitely. but in the short run, we're a...

If he wants a bounce, he's got to earn it? it's not there yet? >> i think that's right, he has to come out and continue to sell the bill. remember, the white house has said they're planning a hard pivot here to move on to jobs and some of these other issues like the financial regulatory reform and beating up the banks on wall street. it's not clear how much time the president is going to spend trying to sell health care reform, when they have these other issues people on the hill are desperate for them to move on to. >> that could be a danger. when they push through the big stimulus or jobs bi...

Arkansas are associated or members of a union. where's all this union love coming from from the afl-cio to get you $3 million? are you a beneficiary of people who just don't like blanche lincoln or are you out there doing what you got to do and willing to do what you got to do for the working folk of america? which is it? >> well, ed, i've got a history of working with the state, afl-cio on a very important issue, as you say, a kitchen table issue. the afl-cio was the first group out to work with me in establishing a massive scholarship program in arkansas. the nuts and bolts of it is if you g...