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Had dark horse candidate that would do things, i would keep them under wraps. do you want to stick your head out of the rabbit hole and deal with donald trump going after you? >> no. >> if you have somebody, keep it on the down low. my advice, not here to argue. >> dems divided, look at that. beautiful graphic, isn't it? big and beautiful. >> it is a divider. >> party 2020. >> you are right. they are divided, extreechlism, socialism. >> so are the republicans, you guys are running a race out of virginia, he's a racist out of virginia. >> richard, if he gets too problematic for the democratic p...

With impunity. there's a second real problem here. the whole idea behind, you can't indict a sitting president, a large part of it comes from the fact that indictments are distracting to the president who is very busy. courts operate in the real world. and they know, for example, that donald trump has golfed 53 days out of his 482 days in office, more than 1 in 10 days. so it's a little hard to make the kind of distraction arguments that are at the core of presidents can't be indicted opinions when you're talking about this president. >> let me push you on that. because that was an issue in pa...

Them subject to other decisions within the executive branch that might detonate their presidency as a practical matter. >> that's absolutely right. very good point. there are two basic paths. one is to say, we have a principle that's more important, no one is above the law. and it arguably applies to criminal, and at least may apply to the indictment of a president. and maybe you say, you can't try him in office, that would knee cap him. the second and more funeral poin -- fundamental point, all the scholars who say, you can't indict a president while he's sitting, say, the remedy is impeachme...

Defund mueller's investigation. to knee cap his investigation. >> i just don't think this is at all in the realm of possibility. congress would have to pass a bill in certain language to defund it and get the president to sign it. it's not going to happen. it won't be defunded whether he fires him or not is not something i can predict. there are many, many lawmakers here on capitol hill who are much more willing to protect mueller than to fire him. i think that is very clear from the people i talked to up here. i wouldn't be surprised to see that happen if there is any clue or hint that muelle...

Depend upon to really bring china to the table to do the things that need to be done, back channelling in some cases to north korea. when you knee cap that effort, you really move our country into a binary choice which could lead to a world war. so, yes, i want him to support diplomatic efforts. not embarrass and really malign efforts that are underway to try to get some kind of diplomatic solution here and i think most people would agree with that. >> what does it say, gloria, when the chairman of the senate foreign relations committee, a republican, says the republican president of the unite...