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>> what do you make of this, shannon? >> i do agree that there are racial tensions underneath all this obama attacking and maybe he doesn't even intend it to be that. but it is perceived that way and certainly by the alt-right and racist elements in the country. they perceive it to be about race. same thing with the persistent attacks on black athletes. >> i forgot. the take the knee guys. making it into s.o.b.s. they called them -- you can say i disagree with them. it's a good argument on both sides. i can see the argument. maybe it's not the proper way to show your anger but to call them s.o...

President more powerful -- former president more powerful every time he talks about them. >> i do agree that there are racial tensions underneath all this obama attacking and maybe he doesn't even intend it to be that. but it is perceived that way and certainly by the alt-right and racist elements in the country. they perceive it to be about race. same thing with the persistent attacks on black athletes. >> i forgot. the take the knee guys. making it into s.o.b.s. they called them -- you can say i disagree with them. it's a good argument on both sides. maybe it's not the proper way to show you...