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>> it's in line with our reporting because at the time, i was speaking with actual women who had text messages that were very potentially incriminating. at least had more information that needed to be run down who were not being interviewed by the fbi. deborah ramirez's lawyer was saying it wasn't the agents. they wanted to do an investigation but the white house had such a tight grip on this investigation and was deciding who they could talk to and who they couldn't talk to and that it was going to be a very limited investigation in scope. we were still speaking with people, joy, at the time ...

Letters that, you know that won't go away. there are situations in life, and crowley and colmes both kno bad is developing, and there are two ways to do it, you confront whatever's bad or you run away from it, say don't tell me, i don't want to know. i think the president is in the latter. however, that doesn't excuse his behavior, because his deceit, falsehoods, whatever you want to say, has impacted negatively on the folks. >> deceit sounds intentional. a lie has intentionality to it. to make a mistake, like jeb bush i think made a mistake, as you point out. >> right. >> i don't think he int...