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Way to reading what happens six months down the line now with russ russia involvement in syria? >> the presidents did meet. that hasn't happened for a long time. the russian side was very eager to read that meeting out as a positive meeting. their spin about the meeting was much more positive and forward leaning than the american side. and, you know, there may be possibilities to cooperate, at a minimum to make sure that we don't crosshairs with each other. and that we don't somehow get into some kind of conflict inadvertently with each other. >> adrian and ambassador mcfaul, thank you for joi...

I think he still has the old images are still haunting him inside his mind. >> ambassador, who got the better of that argument on that stage in front of that audience in that room? >> you know, president obama and president putin were actually speaking to two different audiences. putin doesn't care what you or i or adrian thinks of his speech. he's speaking to the rest of the world. he's trying to create this narrative about how the united states expanded nato and caused all of this turmoil when, of course, there was no discussion of expansion of nato towards ukraine at the time. i was still i...

>> i don't think president putin knows what he's going to do in syria. let's be clear. we've been there for a long time. we've been bombing targets with 50 or 60 other countries with very limited results. i think that incremental addition of whatever air power or military power will come from russia will not have an effect. but what i do think the russians need to think very seriously about ask now they become a target in this civil war not only from isis but from other 8 elements. when they begin to have casualties how will that debate play back home in russia? >> adrian, donald trump saying ...

Cooperate with the syrian government and armed forces while fighting terrorism face to face. we should finally acknowledge that no one but president assad's armed forces and militia are truly fighting the islamic state and terrorist organizations in syria. >> joining us now adrian, senior fellow for the atlantic counsel and russian expert and msnbc contributor. a adrian, on the ukraine, there's putin saying why do they have to expand nato? why do they have this expansion force, and saying the soviet union had collapsed. is that a difficult thing for him to say publicly, the soviet union has co...

That no one but president assad's armed forces and militia are truly fighting the islamic state and terrorist organizations in syria. >> joining us now adrian, senior fellow for the atlantic counsel and russian expert and msnbc contributor. adrian, on the ukraine, there's putin saying why do they have to expand nato? why do they have this expansion force, and saying the soviet union had collapsed. is that a difficult thing for him to say publicly, the soviet union has collapsed? >> it is a difficult thing for him to say. i think the real question is why did he bring up nato? nato was not on th...