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John bolton cuts the meeting short. is he going to talk to us about that tomorrow? what is he going to say? his name keeping coming up with witness after witness and we get all those accounts, and his account wasn't that quite complete or in some cases was contradictory. he's really in an interesting position because he doesn't want to lie, but he's got stuff he said or didn't say before. i think he's going to tell a much more complete story. i'm taking that cue from the fact that he already amended and extended his testimony once, and i think he's going to prove to be one of the most damning ...

Kurt volker, who resigned just one day after the release of the whistle-blower's report, telling the president's defenders exactly what they did not want to hear. they called him apparently expecting him to say what he said in his closed-door testimony, that he saw no evidence of a quid pro quo, or let's call it for what it is again, a shakedown. well, now he says he was wrong. he was out of the loop. he didn't know burisma meant biden. >> since i gave my testimony on october 3rd, a great deal of additional information and perspectives have come to light. i've learned many things that i did no...

Decades. this was a surprise because obviously burisma was connected in everybody's mind with the bidens, with hunter biden. and so i think it shocked a lot of people. on the other hand, kurt volker didn't turn out, as you said, to be the witnesses the republican side thought they were going to be. he extolled the virtues of joe biden, and several times was given the opportunity to say in effect he didn't believe any of these stories about vice president biden, and he shouldn't because they're fictitious. they've the product of the imagination of donald trump and rudy giuliani. i think the pie...