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I mean, it's a memory test. they may accuse you of lying. it's completely rigged and it's politically driven by clinton operatives who have an agenda. >> tucker: now corsi says he's asked his attorney to draft a criminal complaint of his own to bring against mueller for misconduct. how do we assist those? a constitutional law professor joins us tonight.g elizabeth, thank you very much for coming on. if we take three steps back, i'm a little bit surprised at this late in the process, we are still talking about michael cohen pleading to lying about the date of a perfectly legal real estate trans...

The possibility of a pardon. it was never discussed but i wouldn't take it off the table. why would i take it off the table? he claims, manafort, roger stone and stone associate jerome corsi were asked to lie. trump quote, if you told the truth, you go to jail. trump said, you know this flipping stuff is terrible. but i had three people -- manafort, corsi -- i don't know corsi. this is mccarthyism. we are in the mccarthy era. this is no better than mccarthy. let's go back to the beginning where he floats the idea of a pardon for paul m manafort. >> you know, we lose sight of what's extraordi...

See him do i think earlier on in his term. >> devlin, you and your colleagues have been breaking a lot of the stories that i think it's fair to put in the collusion side of the investigation. that over the thanksgiving holiday, you and your colleagues broke the story about jerome corsi's plea deal conversations. where do you think this story is going next on the collusion front? we know there's pressure on stone, know corsi is still under scrutiny. what do you think is the next development for us to keep an eye out for? >> i think the -- i think mueller and his team have put a lot of work into...

Provided. he felt like he may have heads up about the podesta e-mails coming out. now corsi has been in there for interviews and the grand jury and handed over documents and his computer. he acknowledges that his brain became mush along the way. some of the things he said didn't match up with the e-mails and he was not with holding things with the specificity the office wanted, but he said i was not willfully lying and he was incensed that they offered had him this plea deal under seal. he felt like he couldn't agree. i said what happens next? he said i don't know. >> i don't know. as we noted...