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Of course donald trump, who has said if and when isis targets the vatican, which he called the ultimate trophy there you're going to have somebody like pope francis and i'm paraphrasing here, in the words of the president, you are going to have somebody like pope francis wishing that donald trump was president. >> well, that is because donald trump wants to make us believe that all refugees are potential terrorists. and that was the context in which he made that remark. now isis, the so-called islamic state did put a picture of the vatican on the cover of its magazine with the flag of isis fly...

The guess the big-picture question to you is, he's done this before, right? before the intelligence services come out and are definitive, even when everyone knows that's probably the way it's going to go but they don't have the facts yet, he will come out and say it. is that better to be definitive, use the word "islamic terror," is that more or less effective than waiting and following the intelligence community? >> well, sometimes we need to do both. i mean, what is terrorism? we always thought the definition of terrorism is the innocent killing of sieve civilian for political purposes or so...

Director for criminal investigative division. and paul cruickshank, our terror analyst. i have a picture of the truck i'm going to show. first, paul, you've been talking to your sources. what have you learned about this attack? >> erin, they're investigating this as a terrorist attack but have not yet made that determination that it, indeed, was, a terrorist attack. as officials look at what's played out in the last few hours in per lyberlin, they see the similarities with the nice attack in the summer in which 86 people were killed biy an is-is-inspired driver. they see the parallels a few we...

Over the truck or they, or he, had carjacked or truckjacked the truck and it's a legitimate load. poland is not a terrorism hotbed. i think it's highly likely that this was a hijacking situation. and i think it shows how adaptable these terrorist organizations and their followers are. can't get into a venue on foot, you kill them with a truck. can't get inside the airport perimeter, you set off your bombs outside the perimeter. they're constantly adapting. this is becoming a trend. >> and phil, you know, donald trump coming out and not only, you know, talking about isis and other islamist terr...

And al qaeda in his thoughts. >> so on that, on that point, the state department was asked if this was an act of terrorism and the spokesperson, john kirby, said "we need to let the investigation run its course." donald trump, of course, put out a statement saying the ambassador was assassinated by a "radical islamic terrorist." did trump go too far on this? we don't know the motive and, of course, he said "remember aleppo" which could mean that he is angry at russia for killing civilians which would be very different than being motivated in support of isis. >> it's hard to know. that's why yo...