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>> kylie, fascinating. thank you for sharing. now jim, julie and ka tretrina back with us with that picture. what we're learning when she describes the communication, who was talking to whom and how the people were learning about what the plan was when it came to ukraine. fiona hill the center of trying to execute on u.s. policy there in ukraine. jim, how do you react to what you hear? >> first on hill, anybody who covers russia, hill knows russia, two, is as tough as can be, and three, oftentimes when i or others press the administration being soft on russia, they would point to the direction...

And it sounds as though the new press secretary who's just on the job you know for a week or so, got into it a bit with the north koreans in trying to hustle members of the white house press pool in for this meeting. >> it's a reminder of the north, there's no press freedom there. this is, this is a brutal regime. kim jong un is at the top of a brutal regime with a long history of much worse. but that is quite a moment hear to see the white house press secretary physically bruised. now jim, the president has in the past talked about his desire or at least his openness to welcoming the north ko...

Strained between the north koreans and south koreans. but we know president moon has been working tirelessly to try to get these talks back on track. when he came into office. moon was a liberal, wants peace on the korean peninsula. that was one of his major platforms when he became president of south korea, and to date, he has certainly helped orchestrate it, but he hasn't necessarily been pivotal. that has been president trump, in making those meetings with kim jong un happen. and we saw after the hanoi summit in february that the north koreans really soured on the south korean officials. th...

Inside this room next to me, biden did reveal that he is in fact going to support repealing the hyde amendment, something that has been very contentious over the past 24 hours, and really, you've seen a lot of pressure both from his fellow candidates who are saying they hope he reverses himself, and also from other groups who are involved in the abortion rights fight. and biden today saying that he really seeing that women's health is under assault, especially in states that are pushing to pass bills relating to abortion restrictions, that he could no longer support this amendment. jim? >> arl...

All incomes. >> i can't justify leaving millions of women without access to the care they need and the ability to exercise their constitutionally protected right. if i believe health care is a right, as i do, i can no longer support an amendment that makes that right dependent on someone's zip code. >> let's go now to cnn's arlette sae saenz. arlet, quite a turnaround. quite a clear-cut one. what's behind this decision? >> that's right, jim. it was just a little over 24 hours ago where the biden campaign confirmed that the former vice president did in fact support the hyde amendment. you saw t...