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President and public policy on immigration. one is they don't like illegal immigration and the other is like they don't like immigration because they think immigration changes the country in a fundamental way which makes it worse, which is what the president said about europe. do you think the president is in that latter camp? it's about immigration itself. >> well, just loork k at the numbers and look at the teefref to contract legal immigrants in the united states and talk to people in the faith community and in the business community and you see the negative impact this has had. this is not...

The democratic national committee. 890 minutes ago in atlanta former labor secretary tom perez emerged as the winner there. perez barely defeating congressman keith ellison. you see him on the right-hand side of this picture. that vote even went to a second ballot. >> as i have said and as keith has said, we're at this moment in our nation's history. someday they're going to study this era in american history, and they're going to study it along are side the know nothing movement, and they're going to ask the question of all of us. where were you in 2017 when we had the worst president in the ...

Conversations, sometimes spirited, sometimes difficult, that's not a sign of weakness, that's a sign of strength as a party. and that's what we will continue to do. [applause] because as i've said and as keith has said, we're at this where were you moment in our nation's history. someday they're going to study this era in american history, and they're going to study it alongside the know-nothing movement. and they're going to ask the question of all of us, where were you in 2017 when we had the worst president in the history of the united states? and we will all be able to say, whether you're ...

Forward and i am confident, my friends, and i am confident that when we lead with the values, and lead with the actions, we succeed, and that is what the democratic party is always about, and that is what we will always continue to be about, and when we commute the message of inclusion, and opportunity for everyone, the big tent that we are, that is our strength, my friends, and when we have these conversations, sometimes spirited and sometimes difficult, that is not a sign of weakness, but it is a sign of strength as a party, and that is what we will continue to do. as i have said and keith h...

Make his policy proposals feel more humanized because that's what he does in these debates. reflects the tone of the audience. the tone of the audience is serious. on his build a wall rhetoric. i think he'll say, look, we need rules. we need laws. we're a country of laws. we need a real immigration policy. >> this is trump all grown up, but i think hillary clinton says, look, here's the clearest contrast. it's walls versus bridges. i think what she should do, however, go further and go personal and talk about how donald trump's family and her family are immigrants. their vice presidents are ir...