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Russian landscape. but the truth of this disastrous decision by the kremlin, by putin, that is not something that putin has been able to entirely hide. >> ned price, i have a sense these are very busy days for you. we're grateful to you for making time to talk to us. thank you, my friend. perfect segue for my next guest. kier simons in moscow. just pick this up where ned price left it. i also heard from a former senior intelligence official that in some ways as perilous as these crippling sanctions are, if they find out about it, the death toll of young russian soldiers coming back to russia i...

Every day from disbelief to horror and acceptance. i wonder what it is they accept. do they accept they will die saving ukraine? do they accept that russia is coming? what is that they think happens next? >> reporter: i think people are caught somewhere between disbelief that this is happening and that putin is coming for all of it. there's this fear that the disbelief was what led to the unpreparedness. that people woke up in the eastern part of the country and had to make a decision of what do i leave with? what are in the pockets? show me your pockets. because i can't imagine that decision ...

Intelligence is gathered, it is analyzed, verified and declassified i guess to keep putin off his game, to reveal him for exactly what he is. a liar making up false pretext. the intelligence community has been flawless in predicting what's going to happen next. i wonder if you can tell us what's going to happen next. >> i don't have a crystal ball, but here's what i can tell you. before i worked at the state department, i was at the cia. i have never seen a campaign like this to use intelligence to declassify information in an effort to deter violence and now to keep putin off of his game. tha...

Our best mechanism to end this war is probably the russian people. we need to understand is does this information work. everything putin does on every day is a theatrical presentation where he is the victor and he's the victim who's being prove kated to do these attacks. if you watch in the information space, they've failed miserably, but where they have had minor successes, particularly in the south, they've begun redeploying their war correspondents to build this momentum, that yes, things are going great. there's one big problem with this. you can't hide dead people forever. so when russian...

As we can. >> it seems on the other side, putin made more than a couple false claims that were not tru. that there would be no street to street combat necessary. that he would, with little resistance, be able to install governors around ukraine and that an insurgency from the ukrainian people was not anticipated by putin. i wonder what, whether the assessment now is that putin is more or less dangerous no that he's been humiliated in the early days of this war? >> i think putin has really misjudged on this throw levels. on the first level, the one you spoke to. if he was under the impression, ...