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Deep breath and say prove to us what these rules should be. have you obviously abused them. we are tired of having our customers and our citizens abused. >> let's move onto the news of the day. we want to get your opinion of things, steve bannon, the new york post has an interview with donald trump in which he says this about one of his top strategists. i like steve. but you have to remember, he was not involved in my campaign until very late. i had already beaten all of the senators and the governors, no offense. and i didn't know steve. i am my own strategist. it wasn't like i was changing s...

Chief strategist and his son-in-law jared kushner. i like steve, but he was not involved in the campaign until very late. i had already beaten all of the senators and the governors and i didn't know steve. i'm my own strategist and i told them to straighten it out or i will. if the ball is in steve bannon's court what does that mean? paul begala, and cnn commentator kevin madden and senior congressional correspondent for the washington examiner david drucker. paul, first to you, if president bill clinton was saying this about you in "the new york post" what would you be thinking right now? >> ...

Strategist his role. asked by the new york post if he had confidence in bannon, the president didn't offer a ringing endorsement, saying i like steve, but you have to remember, he wasn't involved in my campaign until very late. i had already beaten all the senators and all the governors, and i didn't know steve. i'm my own strategist. it wasn't like i was going to change strategies, because i was facing crooked hillary. >> i can run a little hot on occasion. >> reporter: thought to have the president's ear during policy discussions, bannon seems to have increasingly become marginalized, thanks...

I had already beaten all the senators and all the governors and i didn't know steve. i'm my own strategist and the it wasn't like i was going to change strategies because i was facing crooked hillary. but trump's attempt to diminish bannon as a late cover hardly meshes with reality. former head of the right wing nationalist breitbart news website was one of trump's prominent cheerleaders pointing out at a conservative conference that breitbart took notice of trump's appeal early on. >> the cpac gave him the spring board. first time in breitbart we saw how people, you know, his speeches resonat...

We're waiting to see on both of those. >> there is a chilling effect in these countries from this message and i think that they made it clear that if there is more saber rattling and more chemical weapons those other five bases that weren't taken out become vulnerable and he is not afraid to do these kind of strikes. he will find his own way to have a trump doctrine and send messages as he sees fit. >> bill: i've known you a long time and i know you like the intrigue as do i. we always try to figure out the personalities and how they either mesh or clash in the west wing. now there is a conver...