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Josh campbell this week, and he has told -- he told josh and harry dunn told me last night that the chief said the same thing to him. he said, he's going to encourage other officers to speak out. there is very likely going to be more than just what we heard today. >> chief, let me ask you. where is the fop? where is the tfraternal order o police? >> that's a good question. >> why are they not speaking out on behalf of these four officers? >> that's a very good idea. i don't know. i do know tom manger very, very well from where he was fairfax police chief, we worked together when i was mpd and ...

Routine oversight. will we now see the records? will we see? it's not just inside the white house. what about giuliani and the lawyers working with the president's political team? they're in touch with these, forgive me, crazies around i think the huge challenge today after the committee, just those officers -- not the politicians, the officers made the case of why we need this committee. now they have to do their work, and that's pain staking. >> just to add one thing, donald trump invited these people. he went on twitter. >> yeah, repeatedly. >> it was his staff and former staff got the perm...