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Who know whaz's going on. we're doing an awful lot of the same thing to sthem. >> what does the u.s. do to staunch -- the rise of chinese technological capacity is a great thick, but what do we do to make sure it's accompanied by restraint. >> we really haven't found an effective lever to hold against them. part of that is they say, you're doing the same thing to us. our response is, we spy on your government officials and military, but we don't take commercial interests, don't steal your commercial information. for them, that's not a very compelling argument. i mean, the real concern here i t...

>> what did mccain say today? mccain said today that the poor man was in it isolation. and john mccain who was with other people says i won't even talk about the kind of psychological -- >> what else did john mccain say? he said in the interview that, yes, he would want bergdahl to get back, wanted him to be rescued, would have been willing to do some sort of a swap but he didn't know the details so the details matter to members of congress, including senator john mccain. >> everybody. >> then he said today, if he would have known it was these five taliban being released he would have agreed w...

>> what did mccain say today? mccain said today that the poor man was in it isolation. and john mccain who was with other people says i won't even talk about the kind of psychological -- >> what else did john mccain say? he said in the interview that, yes, he would want bergdahl to get back, wanted him to be rescued, would have been willing to do some sort of a swap but he didn't know the details so the details matter to members of congress, including senator john mccain. >> everybody. >> then he said today, if he would have known it was these five taliban being released he would have agreed w...