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His company a few weeks ago. There were huge financial penalties he was ordered to pay in that case. He is going to appeal the judgment, going to appeal the ruling in that case. But he in the meantime has to put up a bond while he files that appeal. We have been watching this because the amount of the judgment against him was so e huge, the bond he has to put up is huge, roughly a half billion dollars. So his lawyers told the court as the deadline for filing the bond, for posting the bond approached, his lawyers told the court that they had been unable to obtain a bond. They said they had reac...

We arranged for all of that to happen in that hour as hazing for you. Youre in the frat, dont worry. Thank you, rachel. And thanks to you at home for joining us this hour. Really happy to have you here. Right off the top, there has been Breaking News in the last hour or so. In a couple of the legal cases involving former president donald trump, one of these we have been watching for a few weeks. He lost a big fraud case against his company a few weeks ago. There were huge financial penalties he was ordered to pay in that case. He is going to appeal the judgment, going to appeal the ruling in t...

He said all those are questions for the special counsel. but he left a lot on the table that i think could be put straight to trump today. >> it could put the whole he said/he said to bed. he could say, here's the tapes and the truth can come out. so how long can the white house -- they know if they have tapes or not. like, hello. >> that's a knowable thing. >> right. how long can they wait? >> well, the most -- who knows. maybe there's a new taping system that we don't know about. it's harder to imagine that than the president doing what he was doing when he was a private citizen which was ma...

Two matters. does he believe his decisions had any influence on the election. >> first off, jim comey has not sat for an interview on this typical with us or anyone else. we conducted dozens of interviews with people in all walks of life to get aense of what the discussions were around him. i think he feels like he made the least bad decisions that he could have made given the be a circumstances he faced. i think that's what he would say. and whether that influenced an election or not, i'm not sure they feel that's a knowable thing. they think they made the least bad decision. >> the thing the...

The two different paths he took on those two matters. does he believe his decisions had any influence on the election? >> i don't -- first off, jim comey has not sat for an interview on this topic with us or anyone else, so, you know, we conducted dozens of interviews with people, you know, sort of all walks of life to get a sense of what the discussions were around him. i think he feels like he made the least bad decisions that he could have made given the bad circumstances he faced. i think that's, you know, that's what he would say. and whether that influenced an election or norkt, i'm not ...