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Of the president's attorney seemingly going off script but really laying the ground work for what to come and opening up the possibility of collusion some where. >> i don't think so. >> i watched the entire 22 minutes of chris asking questions and rudy throwing brick back at him and trying to insult everybody and chris pushing further. it squirted out at one point. he tried to cover for a slip and he was stuck with it. it is a headline because it is an admission against interest. he's not very good at loitering for his client on television. he's not good as a p.r. guy on television. >> i want ...

Dnc. he's looking at other avenues. >> it is clear that he can look at any crimes. he runs across or suspects. in the course of his investigation, obstruction of justice is within his charter and what started the investigation and the obstruction that they are looking at since we know so much more is a lot of good commentary out of the fact that obstruction could be the very firing of comey because it interfered with the investigation of counter intelligence. that's a very different thing in a court proceeding. much broader and very viable. >> more of the interview, this is where he talks abou...

It is wrong to give it to them. >> i can't speak for manafort. fraep first of all, all of it is cooked. >> okay, again, misinformation. >> polling data given to russians? when does that happen? >> well, he's trying to -- he knows what makes a conspiracy and two people agreed to pass information about as -- conspiracy maybe good or bad. it does not make a difference. it shows an agreement to aid and conspire. is a more legal word for collusion. >> internal polling data he says is cooked. what kind of excuses is that, john? >> that's no excuse at all. it could have been cooked information for th...

Much as i can of the information to congress and the public. >> those two answers don, that he wants to provide transparency but also is revealed by mueller report is subject to barr's discretion. senator feinstein says that her vote for barr hinges on the mueller report being made public. this is an important report and the public needs to see it. >> thank you very much. >> fareed zakaria is here. i want to get your reaction to the president attorney rudy giuliani. about collusion. here it is. >> the collusion happened a long time ago. it is not provable because it never happened. >> what do ...

We have talked to the side. the statement is there is nothing that's adverse to the president, the trump's family and the trump's campaign. >> that's exactly opposite of what he sent. he mentions the campaign. and asked about cooperation between people associated with trump and the russians. he said the collusion would come up empty. what do you think of all this after what we heard tonight. he also in that interview with chris trying to disown virtual knowing manafort. saying he was there six months and four months. he wiggled around. the same old defense. with rudy, one of the things a that ...