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Meeting, we need to get the investigations? do you remember the person who told him, hey, don't say that, it's wrong. no one. no one. >> there was a text stream there but, look, the president was skeptical of ukraine and president zelensky for a long time. >> nobody told sondland don't say this quid pro quo thing because it's wrong. no one. >> he had an opinion. >> no, no, no. i'm saying none of the people around him, not his boss, not secretary of state pompeo, not mulvaney, not the president. nobody told him, gordon, you're wrong, stop asking for this. >> didn't senator johnson right that in...

Stop. >> how do you know he vocalized that to pompeo? >> because he was in the loop. >> they don't remember that the same. >> how do we know what pompeo remembers? he won't testify. >> he said they brought everybody in the loop and everybody few what was going on and johnson didn't agree with that. >> johnson is meaningless. of all the people in this process, no one ever said -- >> he's part of the security council. he went over and spoke to the president. he had the ear of the president. >> i know. >> and the president had his ear. >> but the president was shouting off the ear of mr. sondland...

Part b is they didn't say, well, so who told you this? and when did they tell you this? he's like, well, it was mulvaney or this one or i think pompeo knew. >> you sure he knew? i'm not sure. why not? that was part b. why doesn't he have access to his documents from the state department? he said none of it was classified. why aren't the big shots in to clarify this once and for all so we can back up? >> i'm going to back up. i had my own committee. i was there for as month of the testimony as i could this morning. i read his opening statement, i heard his opening statement. i was struck by a n...

It was no secret. >> everyone knew. it was no secret. according to the u.s. ambassador to the eu, million dollar donor to trump's inaugural, that means pence, pompeo, bolton, mulvaney, of course giuliani, of course of course the president himself the day ended with a different type of meaningful moment. the house intel committee chair reflected on the anti-corruption narrative from the president and his defendant. >> and when ambassador sondland testified today that he could put two and two together and so can we, that there was also a quid pro quo on the military aid, that that aid was not go...

Said any of these things to him. in fact what the president said, he quoted what the president said is, no, there's no quid pro quo. what he says is i'm surmising, this is what i'm just sort of gathering. did anything come from the president? >> no, it came from rudy giuliani. well, i mean -- >> and mulvaney. with the knowledge pompeo. >> he said exactly that. >> which he will walk back, as you know. the reality is i'm just trying to play out where i think the public is, where i think republicans are, is this just another example of someone giving their opinion as to what the president's posit...