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This image is just so offensive. yes, it certainly has been hurtful to those of us who have worked with ralph who have known ralph for his entire political career. it's been extremely hurtful. but i don't know how he can say anything that is going to mitigate that. the only thing he should say is i apologize to the people of virginia and i resign because i can no longer be a leader. >> you refer to the governor as ralph, so this is -- >> he's in a neighbor, what can i say. >> this is personal for you, absolutely. >> very much so. >> vivian page, thank you. appreciate your thoughts, appreciate ...

Did. whether or not ralph is in either one of those costumes is not what is relevant to me. what's relevant to me is he made a choice to include those pictures. and that kind of behavior's not acceptable. it's not acceptable certainly in 2019. but it wasn't acceptable back in 1984 either. i was three years out of college. ralph was in medical school. i was working. i was contributing to society and doing all those things that people do when they're 24 years old. ralph was 25. he should have known better. >> yes, so some of the things he has said in the statement last night, you know, that phot...

Much. we're going to take that live when it happens. let's talk more about this. political activist vivian page. glad you could be with us. describe for me that what is like for you. you have known this governor since he first ran for office and now to see this image and to hear his words last night and now to hear him apparently tell a colleague that's not a photo of him, what is this like for you? >> well, it's been difficult for me because i've known ralph since he entered politics in 2006. when he entered politics, it seems like he was going to be -- certainly a good democrat of how he was...