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Can't really directly fire bob mueller. he will have to rely upon the person who actually oversees this probe to do his dirty work if that dirty work is to be done. >> hey r, ned, just want to let you and our viewers know kelly o'donnell says the quote, we have made progress on our call with judiciary staff members. we have committed to moving forward with an open hearing on thursday, september 27 at 10:00 a.m. this is a readout from the ko counsel of dr. ford. it looks like thursday morning, 1:00 a.m. on capitol hill, that will be when all eyes are focused on this hearing. it will be a lot of...

Ryan lizza and laura coat, and when we talk about prepping for an interview, what would that look like initially? >> well, the parameters of what it would look like and how it would take place and is it going to be with an interview of ko counsel who is allowed to be present with president trump or in front of the grand jury, and the lat ser not the ideal scenario for the president of the the united states, because in the grand jury, he has the potential to go rogue and not have attorneys in the room. so likely to have interview of mueller and the investigative team with the counsel present to...

Enough because he continued to work here and the white house continued to come to his defense once the allegations came out in the public. the source i spoke with said that morale has been low in the white house today just given all that's unfolded and the fact that the chief of staff and other senior white house aides, the fact that white house ko counsel was made aware or received a phone call alleging that robert porter was physically abusive and verbally abusive and the fact the white house stood by him publicly for 24 hours, at least, before john kelly put out the statement acknowledging ...